Thursday, December 3, 2009

Another shoe dropping in climategate?

9 comments:

Evan said...

Breaking news: a center founded by oil interests is trying to undermine the validity of climate data.

I wonder who has vested interests here, NASA or CEI?

Evan said...

*funded, not founded.

TJE said...

Evan, since you are a believer in "follow the money":

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703939404574566124250205490.html

Lachlan said...

Al Gore will be charging $1,200 for a handshake at Copenhagen. Who says there's no money in alarmism?

Evan said...

Maybe I'm crazy, but it doesn't seem like there's a real incentive for scientists to scream loudly about something to get grant money. Their main vested interest here is...the ability to do more research?

I don't see the overarching economic benefit for these scientists. They still have to do research work to get money; it isn't like they're being rewarded for finding this global warming by getting a $400 million subsidy to distribute as they see fit.

Oil companies, on the other hand, have a very obvious interest in funding people who undermine climate science.

Evan said...

Adding, obviously the science should be reviewed thoroughly. Climategate is a case of really bad ethics. But it isn't like these scientists have any enormous vested financial interest in an outcome relative to ExxonMobil or BP or Shell or another oil company.

TJE said...

Evan, you're really stretching here. Scientists live and die by there ability to generate funding. Beware the climate change academic research complex.

Evan said...

That's obviously a complex I never knew existed.

TJE said...

It's a close cousin to the climate industrial complex

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124286145192740987.html